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Gizmo Project for LJ Talk [Mar. 8th, 2007|09:07 pm]
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If a LIveJournal user goes to their profile they'll find a reference to LJ Chat

e.g My own profile http://bobbain.livejournal.com/profile

There's a reference there to LJ Talk which in my case is bobbain@livejournal.com (Jabber)


Windows download.


This is the software that I installed yesterday and used to set up 2 cents per minute call out and a call in number for Penzance so that Trevor can call me (voice) by calling a local Penzance Cornwall number. There are hundreds of these telephone exchanges in the United Kingdom, Australia and the United States and indeed many other countries as well. I have set call forwarding on so that if the software isn't running it will direct the calls to my home phone in Werrington and it will charge me just 2 cents per minute and Trevor whatever the local Penzance call rates may be. (as noted yesterday it works..)

The software above is a modified version of the "Gizmo Project" software that when installed lists as contacts the people on a Live Journal user's friends list.

It works very well indeed. The few contacts on my "friends list" show as not being on-line/not having the software installed. I know Ace and Elsie best (although Elsie seems to have disappeared). I added "bookworm" in Texas as we are both dealing with bereavement and besides Texas is BIG ! :-) [ oh and the profile said "add me. I like meeting new people" ] and I like reading about ships and pleasure cruises.

Today I set up (on the machine downstairs) the unmodified software from the Gizmo Project at http://www.gizmoproject.com . This isn't modified for LiveJournal but other than that there isn't much difference. Contacts on LiveJournal have to be set up as "Jabber" server contacts on the native software and "Gizmo Project" contacts on the LJ modified version.. The software uses different servers - the LJ one doing "Jabber" and the "Gizmo Project" one doing "Gizmo Projects". The native unmodified software doesn't populate the contacts list with the Live Journal friends list but it's possible to add them by entering say username@livejournal.com into the contact box and select Jabber as the server. Likewise it works the other way around in the LJ Chat version by entering the "Gizmo Project" name into the name field and selecting user type "Gizmo Project".

That's partly what I've been doing yesterday and today. It's all free but in my case I've set if up to call out overseas cheaply and to allow Trevor (or others in Cornwall) to call me in Australia for the cost of a local call and at not much cost to myself.

I had an interview yesterday morning but don't hold out a great deal of hope but I have made a new contract with a person at an agency. I also had another call about a potential contract this afternoon from another agency but didn't hear anything further.

Apart from all this Gizmo LJ Talk stuff (which seems as good as and possibly better than Skype) I have been studying Momentum Oscillators (sigh).

Software recommended !

[User Picture]From: acelightning
2007-03-08 10:56 pm (UTC)
once i get all my daily uses switched over to my newer computer, i was planning on installing Skype, but now i'm going to look into this LJ Talk feature and/or Gizmo. can i have more than one number (in more than one country) where people can call a phone number local to them and talk to me cheaply?

i'm very worried about Elsie. nobody's heard anything at all from her, or even about her, since September 29 2006. she doesn't answer email (although email to her doesn't bounce, which suggests that someone is emptying her inbox). and none of her friends know what her married surname is. shortly before she vanished, she'd been encountering some very rough companions, and she's a small and non-aggressive woman. on the other hand, she's also not very stable mentally, and her husband, girlfriend, doctors, and possibly even parish priest may have recommended that she spend some time in a mental health care facility, without internet access. (that would still not be good, but better than the alternative scenarios i can think of...)

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[User Picture]From: bobbain
2007-03-09 05:22 am (UTC)
Yes Gizmo allows more than one number in whatever countries/regions are available to be added to your account (which after you've installed the Gizmo LJ Version is your user name and password into LiveJournal).

They cost money - $35 for each number for a year and you are only allowed to add one new number per week - which reduces demand on the system.

Navigate to http://www.gizmoproject.com/call-in.php to see what countries are available and which dialling codes. When you have selected a country/dialling code while purchasing by credit card you may well be given the option of various numbers within that telephone exchange (whatever it may be). There are heaps of available exchanges in the United States and the United Kingdom and the major dialling codes for Australia are there - although it's hard to tell what the call rates might be for a caller if you selected say dialling code 02 (Sydney and New South Wales and the Australian Capital Territory or 03 (Melbourne and Victoria). If you wanted Australia for instance when offered a choice of number it might be best to check if the exchange is in the region you might wish a caller to call from. The individual exchanges within the very vague 02 03 regions can be looked up somewhere on the net but I'm not sure where. If you selected 03 for instance and were given a variety of numbers it would be wise to check which exchange these numbers are located at.

BTW: I have your details from when you movied and I sent a card and you specified a phone number there. I have been tempted from time to time to call it and see if anyone answers :-) (2 cents a minute).

Elssie may have been advised to stay away from the Internet. It's hard to tell.

I have purchased an "academic upgrade" version of Windows Vista which I will attempt to install on the olde olde wobbly and discarded ME machine that I used for many years. It may involve installing Windows 2000 over Linux first. I know that's the machine that was able to read the photoes from Alan's CD which have been hard to read on the newer machines so although the machine is "slow" I believe it falls within the Vista upgrade parameters (not sure about the graphic card spec though).

(posted wtihout proof reading or spell checking)

oh well. I hope what I've writ makes sense :-)

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[User Picture]From: acelightning
2007-03-09 09:09 am (UTC)
well, first of all, the software won't run on this old machine. as i've mentioned, i do have a newer machine, but it's taking me a while to slowly install equivalents to all the programs i'm used to using for everyday things, so i'm not yet at a point where i can install a chat program and use it on a daily basis. furthermore, there's no way i'm paying $35/year for anything beyond the stuff i'm already paying for. i was going to set up the first call-in number for the Melbourne area, since that's where most of my Australian friends live, then the Sydney area to cover you and a few others. (i'm not sure which region Dubbo is in - that's where Den lives.) but not if i have to pay for it :-(

i rather suspect that your very old machine won't run Vista, no matter what the parameters indicate. for that matter, even brand-new machines have trouble running Vista. it needs horrible amounts of RAM and a video card that won't even be invented until next year. from everything i've read so far, Vista is nearly unusable in any form.

i will email you a phone number which always reaches me, and only me.

i wish Elsie would let everyone know she's all right...

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[User Picture]From: bobbain
2007-03-09 09:00 am (UTC)

Answering my own question here's a guide to the Australian telephone numbering allocations:-


"02 98** Sydney - Western Suburbs" is where I am for instance. I know this for a fact as all the numbers around here start with 02 98... so they would be local calls.

Melbourne is listed under various guises...

03 8*** Melbourne (new)
03 9*** Melbourne
03 90** Melbourne non geographic

I guess if one is looking for a "local" phone number for someone who may call you via a Gizmo number then you'd pick a number (if available) with the same leading digits as the person you are providing the resource for. This is what I did with Penzance.



seems about as comprehensive.

In selecting a telephone number start with + then the country code 61 and then leave off any leading 0 that might be used locally. You probably know this already :-)

My old ME machine is working but it's running Debian Linux when I manaage to find a power point to plug things in to. This townhouse unit is a mess of antenna cables, network cable, power cables, obsolete equipment and about 100 copies of olde olde Linux "we're finally there" installations dating back to 1993.

I think I'll dump them in a bin (.....) even though some historian might be interested in them sometime in the future.

Good Gizmoing if that's the path you chose.

My knees are wobbly. I need Cola !


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[User Picture]From: acelightning
2007-03-09 09:11 am (UTC)
i'll hang onto this information until i get the other machine running, and i'll check the numbers i have for various Australians against those numbering systems. thanks!

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