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Reflections at the end of a rotation (and greetings to all) :-) [Dec. 31st, 2006|12:25 pm]
Bob Bain
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Some reflections on my comments of December 29th.

"I believe (as Lucretius did) that there never was a creation for (my reasons) in an infinite eternity (where infinite refers to a quality that encompasses both the large and small) and where eternity is independent of time "the universe" being both matter and void (for want of a better word) has always been and always will be. Lucretius laid the emphasis on the void. I extend it to the non void."

Refer to similar ideas embraced by the mystical (semi religious) sect of Pythagoras:

Pythagoreaeanism (Wikipedia) (link)

The Pythagorean conception of substance, on the other hand, is of unknown origin, partly because various accounts of his teachings are conflicting. The Pythagorean account actually begins with Anaximander's teaching that the ultimate substance of things is "the boundless," or what Anaximander called the "apeiron." But the Pythagorean account says that it is only through the notion of the "limit" that the "boundless" takes form.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apeiron
For Pythagoras, the universe had begun as an apeiron, but at some point it inhaled the void from outside, filling the cosmos with vacuous bubbles that split the world into many different parts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagoreanism
"The Pythagoreans, too, held that void exists, and that it enters the heaven from the unlimited breath – it, so to speak, breathes in void. The void distinguishes the natures of things, since it is the thing that separates and distinguishes the successive terms in a series. This happens in the first case of numbers; for the void distinguishes their nature."

While this makes sense to me the phrase "the universe had begun as an apeiron" doesn't for time (required for a "beginning") arises in the void (being something that can only be measured in a void filled with substance together with intelligence to perform the measurement) and hence a beginning isn't possible. The "Big Bang" in my view was never the creation of matter but in analogy to the words above "void exists, and that it enters the heaven from the unlimited breath – it, so to speak, breathes in void. The void distinguishes the natures of things" the creation of a void in a very small section of the eternal and infinite.

THE EARTH HAS NOW CIRCLED THE SUN AT LEAST 2006 TIMES. MAY IT CONTINUE FOR ANOTHER ROTATION AND MAY WE ALL EXPERIENCE IT :-)
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